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Global Communication - 8:07 =
Tangerine Dream - Love on a Real Train =
Tangerine Dream - Go to the Head of the Class


All 3 are essentially the same song


got more stuff like this?
aside from the obvs fsol ones that is

Speaking of Tangerine Dream, I always hear huge similarities between Tangram and the first side of Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd, the production is so similar.
I always though the Global Communication track was a remix anyway.

oh HECK yes with that tangram

there is also another tangerine dream on top of that one which is borderline pink floyd *ripoff*!


the global communication is obviously a remix, homage...whatever you want to call it.

lol i think i found another good one

last tune on tangerine - thief soundtrack (track name confrontation)

all this guitar jamming sounds like a total comfortably numb ripoff!

wtf??!!?!

LOOOOOOL!

seedy wrote:Global Communication - 8:07 =
Tangerine Dream - Love on a Real Train =
Tangerine Dream - Go to the Head of the Class


All 3 are essentially the same song

ok wow.....add:

Tangerine Dream - Running Out Of Time (from the miracle mile soundtrack)

This one isn't quite as identical as the other three but VERY clearly a homage......very nice one at that

Nice finds again Seedy,

in TD defense - it's not uncommon for artist to use older album tracks in soundtracks later, just renamed.

But the Pink Floyd ripoffs are not cool, if they are not credited...

It's more the production than anything, compositionally the two aren't like that - but most of the synth sounds, the acoustic guitar strums... it just sounds like they were recorded in the same studio at the same time by the same people.

i think that latest one is either a clear homage or just a remix of sorts of the original project

interesting what you say about this not being uncommon pande
i can't think of any examples then again i don't think i know of another act i listen to with THIS extensive of a soundtrack catalog


the floyd rips.....i mean they are not note for note.....but i think one would have to be tone deaf to not recognize they either intentionally or unintentionally stole like 80% of the tune lol.
just looking at the timing of these tunes says it all as well.......they all came out around the same time floyd released the counterparts.


it's kind of like something we have here in the USA where you'll see a commercial on TV and the song IS "i'm bad" by michael jackson......only it's not. they just switch around like 4 of the chords and that allows them to not pay royalties or something lol idk this shit makes me laugh ever since i was young and first realized it

I see no problem with this kind of approach, this is not rip off. Bach himself included melodies and even original and/or transformed parts of various compositions by composers he loved into his own compositions, this is more of showing love I think. If this is considered as a rip-off then what can be said about sampling? which is the ripoff of a ripoff. No I dont agree with this, such monstrous bands like Tangerine Dream and Global Communication dont have the need to ripoff something.

Massive Attack sampled Billy Cobham in their Safe From Harm track, the drums and the bassline, and these are some of the the basic parts of this song, this is not ripoff.

It's a 30 year old discussion, ever since the sampling appeared - and it still just hoovers there, there doesn't seem to be a right answer...

If you do something interesting or creative with it, then it's not a problem. Sampling goes from chart dance and hip-hop stuff that's literally taken another song and put a beat behind it, right through to FSOL who are probably the most creative users of samples there's ever been (and that's not the fanboy in me talking!) - the process isn't right or wrong, it's simply how it's used.

And no one could've said it better than Ross!

oh i agree with all of this

obviously i'm not a person who is opposed to sampling

just comes down to perceptions i guess.
it's not like i think TD was like "hey......this floyd tune is super popular - let's steal it and make money!"
buy then again i kind of don't know wtf they were thinking.
i guess for these tunes here i'm just grasping to find the artistic merit.
because there is the borrowing/taking of something and using it as your own and transforming it etc etc.
i just don't hear that in these tunes.....i hear generic blatant unoriginality

*specifically i'm talking about the 3 TD tunes i've heard that sound exactly like floyd tunes

the whole "3 songs song the same" thing i just find interesting. i totally get why they would do that and actually enjoy it.

Compare Susumu Yokota's I am Flying -



With Aphex Twin's Nanou 2 -



Now that's some cheeky sampling !