Re: Pande-reviews: 1996.4 (FSOL - ISDN Shows '96 Part 2)
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:42 pm
by mcbpete
I've actually been meaning to ask that - I'd love to buy a 'legit' version of that release, what are the chances of finding a copy at a non insane price ?
Failing that - They should bung a digital copy up on fsoldigital.
Re: Pande-reviews: 1996.4 (FSOL - ISDN Shows '96 Part 2)
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:11 pm
by Enofa
Leicester was cut into three because it appeared back in 56k days - and downloading a full transmission back then was a long, laborious task. The original tapes have never re-appeared.
Not sure where you're getting your track titles from, Pande - Womb, that's the sax/guitar track that ended up as Accompaniment for Melodious Expression. The piece with the Antique Toy/Quagmire background is Tingler '96 (it contains a few of the ravey synth bits from the original Tingler), which ended up in a slightly alternate mix as War Machines on Archive 7.
Everyone in the World is Doing Something Without Me and Everyone in the World are very different pieces, apart from the opening. The Dead Cities track is obviously based around the layered vocals, and has the My Kingdom 'breath environment' opening. The ISDN Show one is a warm electronic piece that leads into the last track.
Re: Pande-reviews: 1996.4 (FSOL - ISDN Shows '96 Part 2)
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:15 pm
by epitome
So what is the track list for that France 1997 show? It'd be nice if they listed the tracks in the description. I presume when you buy these live transmissions they are just one long MP3 rather than being split up track by track?
Re: Pande-reviews: 1996.4 (FSOL - ISDN Shows '96 Part 2)
Ah of course - I think that was the reason I bought it in the first place !
Re: Pande-reviews: 1996.4 (FSOL - ISDN Shows '96 Part 2)
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:13 pm
by Pandemonium
Ross wrote:Not sure where you're getting your track titles from, Pande - Womb, that's the sax/guitar track that ended up as Accompaniment for Melodious Expression. The piece with the Antique Toy/Quagmire background is Tingler '96 (it contains a few of the ravey synth bits from the original Tingler), which ended up in a slightly alternate mix as War Machines on Archive 7.
After a few listens and digging around - turns out Ross is right - as usual
I'll change the review-post, and I'll open a stand-alone topic for the ISDN Show tracklist so we settle this confusion.
Re: Pande-reviews: 1996.4 (FSOL - ISDN Shows '96 Part 2)
Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:51 pm
by seedy
epitome wrote:So what is the track list for that France 1997 show? It'd be nice if they listed the tracks in the description. I presume when you buy these live transmissions they are just one long MP3 rather than being split up track by track?
oh heck yes the tracklistings would have been a world of help.
i'm sure they don't want to be bothered though
and yep.....the files come as 1 long track. sometimes the entire show is one track, other times it's broken up into 2-6 files.
i tracked out all of mine so i'll never have to suffer that
only took like a month or two to fix all of them
Pande-reviews: 1996.5 (FSOL - ISDN Shows '96 Part 3)
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:30 pm
by Pandemonium
FSOL - ISDN Transmission 7, Manchester (Kiss 102 FM) [live mix] (06.11.1996)
- bootleg / first official release 07.03.2010
Lots of repetitive shows from this point to the end of the of 1996. So not much comments, just tracklists... still some new discoveries in them though...
00:00 Transmission intro
00:52 Herd Killing - (from Dead Cities, 1996)
05:18 Accompaniment for Melodious Expression (aka Womb) - (from Environments 3, 2010 / from the ISDN Show promo, 1997)
07:47 We Have Explosive / Accompaniment for Melodious Expression (aka Womb) Environment - (from Environments 3, 2010 / from the ISDN Show promo, 1997)
08:27 Oil - Psycho Crab - (from the Slight of Hand EP, 1997)
12:49 Slow Of Motion - (from the Archives Vol.2, 2007)
13:34 Antique Toy - (from Dead Cities, 1996)
18:35 Dark Matter - (from the Archives Vol.2, 2007)
22:30 Her Face Forms In Summertime - (from Dead Cities, 1996)
27:25 Yashica (aka G Electro) - (from the Archives Vol.5, 2008 / from the ISDN Show promo, 1997)
32:23 Oil - Slight Of Hand - (from the Slight of Hand EP, 1997)
36:12 Absent With Concept - (from the Archives Vol.5, 2007)
39:23 Environments (Birds) - (from the Archives Vol.1, 2007)
39:42 ????? - percussion ambient piece with some weird/cool effects, remains unreleased to date.
41:41 My Kingdom - (from Dead Cities, 1996)
47:21 ????? - same unknown piece from Aire 00:47 and Edinburgh at 47:16
50:23 Max - (from Dead Cities, 1996)
53:19 Mains Interrupt - (from the Archives Vol.2, 2007)
54:20 We Have Explosive - (from Dead Cities, 1996)
59:30 Mains Interrupt - (from the Archives Vol.2, 2007)
Dead Cities, Alive. Live ISDN Broadcast to VPRO Radio, Villa 65, 22:00 - 23:00, 11-Nov-1996 The Netherlands
Ross quote:
This recording is similar to other ISDN broadcasts made in the same period. From June 9th until June 13th there was a recording of a live ISDN broadcast from early 1997, originally broadcast on KISS FM in Manchester, Over 95% of the concert is the same as the one broadcasted on VPRO Radio... So not every live concert is new and entirely different from the rest.
- I don't know how or why, I have a 46 minute version of this - not the short broken one that has less than 15 minutes. I don't even remember how I got, it was a long time ago, in the Disenchanted days... but I can confirm that this 46 minute version is almost exact as the first 10 tracks of the ISDN Show promo CD. The only difference is the interview which is really psychedelic, and some little overlay effects that they did on My Kingdom in the middle and at the end of the track.
00:00 Intro and interview - highly distorted live filters make this interview a real mind-fuck
04:17 Hallucination - (from the Archives Vol.1, 2007)
10:32 My Kingdom - (from Dead Cities, 1996) - also very distorted version, especially at the end.
FSOL - ISDN Transmission 11, Berlin (Fritz Radio) [live mix] (06.12.1996)
- bootleg / first official release 15.10.2008
Ross quote:
This show is essentially identical to the first 80 minutes of the Groove Radio show transmitted to Los Angeles in 1997 with the exception of the track "Hallucination," which replaces the track "Yage (Leon Mar Remix)" for the first 5 minutes.
ISDN Live Transmission - Berlin - 6/12/96 (1:21:21)
00:00 Transmission intro
01:01 Hallucination - (from The Archives Vol.1, 2007)
05:07 Slow Of Motion - (from The Archives Vol.2, 2007)
06:10 Accompaniment For Melodious Expression - (from Environments 3, 2010)
07:20 My Kingdom - (from Dead Cities, 1996)
11:51 We Have Explosive (Part 2) - (from We Have Explosive, 1997)
14:33 Max - (from Dead Cities, 1996)
18:05 La Tronik 1 - (from The Archives Vol.3, 2007)
21:12 ????? - breaks/IDM piece...
23:33 LA4 - (from ???, I think this is unreleased...)
26:00 Her Face Forms In Summertime - (from Dead Cities, 1996)
31:19 Is This Real - (from The Archives Vol.1, 2007)
32:07 Oil - Slight Of Hand - (from the Slight of Hand EP, 1997)
37:45 We Have Explosive (Part 4) - (from We Have Explosive, 1997)
41:44 Quagmire - (from Dead Cities, 1996) - the opening contains sample from the Shawshank Redemption movie (the best movie in the world according to IMDb) by Morgan Freeman as Red.
FSOL - Fritz Radio, Berlin [live mix] (06.12.1996) bootleg / unreleased
A full hour set to Germany. The full session is available on the internet.
It has the same date-stamp with the official Live ISDN Transmission 11, Berlin (Fritz Radio),
but they did multiple transmission per night, so this might be the second one...
It is basically the same one as "ISDN3, Edinburgh (Forth FM) (28.10.1996)"
FSOL - London, UK [live mix] (xx.xx.1996) bootleg / unreleased
No tracklist...
This transmission is 92 min. 05 sec. long, very little info about it.
Could very well be a compilation of previous transmissions...
The tracks... we have the usual suspects, basically nothing new if you have the other 1996 shows.
The quality is dodgy too, 112kbps mp3.
Want to read about the other ISDN mix series? (bootleg or otherwise) Click away:
Well, that's it for 1996.
I'll continue with the 1997 transmissions soon...
Re: Pande-reviews: 1992.5 (EarthBeat, By Any Other Name)
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:55 pm
by Enofa
Pandemonium wrote:16 - Yage – 1st Calling | 4:19 - the opening flute sounds are recycled and slowed down to death here, overlayed with some faster beats
Love the way the flute appears again hear - and 'Yage 1st Calling' is such an appropriate name for the first appearance of the flute from 'Yage'.
Also been listening to archive stuff lately, and something hit me a few days ago - I never noticed how much of Gaz's Liz Fraser/Lisa Gerrard obsession makes its way into their music. Those ethereal style female vocals are all over their catalogue, and for some reason it just never clicked how much before now. Even on acid stuff like Skinny Ribbed Fucker you've got voices like that. That's definitely made some sort of subconscious impression on me, I think, as over time I've seemed to love anything with that sound.
Sorry, no idea where else to write this!
Re: Pande-reviews: 1996.5 (FSOL - ISDN Shows '96 Part 3)
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:49 pm
by Dennis
Those ethereal style female vocals are all over their catalogue
Yes, this is definitely something I noticed before too, some of the reasons what I totally like about them, even the AA stuff works often with that (tracks like the lovers, osho) I hardly know any other electronic music act that incorporates soulful, heavenly vocals like these in such a perfect way.
The only recent electronic music maker that comes to my mind using such vocals for great ethereal effect is Burial imo, his stuff reminds me therefor a bit of FSOL from time to time, but I´m not sure how much he is in fact influenced by them...
Re: Pande-reviews: 1996.5 (FSOL - ISDN Shows '96 Part 3)
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:56 pm
by Enofa
I love the way Burial seems to be this halfway house between heartbreaking ethereal ambient and tacky UK garage. But yeah, works well.
I always thought if you looked at their singles, you could mistake Orbital for a three piece including a female vocalist. Belfast, Lush, Halcyon, Are We Here, Style, Nothing Left, Funny Break, One Perfect Sunrise, New France...
Re: Pande-reviews: 1996.5 (FSOL - ISDN Shows '96 Part 3)
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:58 pm
by seedy
burial i just started listening to like a week or so ago
have only heard untrue thus far. was pretty good though perhaps a bit minimal/static?
i don't think i heard much vocals in the way you are referencing them.....would this be on a different album/single etc you are talking about?
hmm....i just don't think i heard much similar to fsol at all but then again i wasn't really thinking along those lines at the time
Re: Pande-reviews: 1996.5 (FSOL - ISDN Shows '96 Part 3)
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:04 pm
by Enofa
Most vocals are probably on Untrue. They're all sampled from 'r&b'/urban tracks. Different style but similar effect at times.
I can't imagine listening to Burial without having experienced British cities at night.
Re: Pande-reviews: 1996.5 (FSOL - ISDN Shows '96 Part 3)
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:13 pm
by Dennis
Yeah, Burial is 'Urban Night Music' definitely, the FSOL-associations come to my mind on some of the short beatless pieces like 'Night Bus' or 'McDonalds', it gets me in the same mood like the ISDN album, another 'night music' album for me.
And yeah, I forgot Orbital, tracks like 'Belfast' and 'Halcyon' are fantastic.
Re: Pande-reviews: 1996.5 (FSOL - ISDN Shows '96 Part 3)
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2013 11:16 pm
by Enofa
Night Bus and In McDonald's are both incredible. Another link to FSOL: he's all sample based.
Re: Pande-reviews: 1996.5 (FSOL - ISDN Shows '96 Part 3)
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:08 am
by Pandemonium
Found an interesting vocal snippet on Edinburgh show at 47:07,